Nathan Moore's Thoughts
Rudy is Right - They’ll Lose the War to Win the Election
I’m holding my breath for the Fred Thompson announcement, but Rudy Giuliani’s views on the Islamist terrorist threat are right on
The former New York City mayor, currently leading in all national polls for the Republican nomination for president, said Tuesday night that America would ultimately defeat terrorism no matter which party gains the White House.
“But the question is how long will it take and how many casualties will we have?” Giuliani said. “If we are on defense [with a Democratic president], we will have more losses and it will go on longer.”
“I listen a little to the Democrats and if one of them gets elected, we are going on defense,” Giuliani continued. “We will wave the white flag on Iraq. We will cut back on the Patriot Act, electronic surveillance, interrogation and we will be back to our pre-Sept. 11 attitude of defense.”
He added: “The Democrats do not understand the full nature and scope of the terrorist war against us.”
No, they don’t. In fact, we learn that Speaker Pelosi, the white flag waver-in-chief (though Harry Reid might dispute that title), takes our national defense and foreign policy so seriously that she can’t make a Congressional briefing on troop escalation that she scheduled
WASHINGTON, Apr. 24, 2007— As the House and Senate prepare to vote this week on the final conference report on the $124 billion troop funding bill — which would also mandate that U.S. combat troops begin withdrawing from Iraq on Oct. 1 at the latest — Gen. David Petraeus is scheduled to come to the Hill tomorrow to brief lawmakers on the progress of the recent troop escalation.
ABC News has learned, however, that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., will not attend the briefing.
“She can’t make the briefing tomorrow,” a Democratic aide told ABC News Tuesday evening. “But she spoke with the general via phone today at some length.”
But back to the mayor. He had some great things to say. I particularly like this
“This war ends when they stop coming here to kill us!” Giuliani said in his speech. “Never, ever again will this country ever be on defense waiting for [terrorists] to attack us if I have anything to say about it. And make no mistake, the Democrats want to put us back on defense!”
Giuliani said terrorists “hate us and not because of anything bad we have done; it has nothing to do with Israel and Palestine. They hate us for the freedoms we have and the freedoms we want to share with the world.”
Giuliani continued: “The freedoms we have are in conflict with the perverted, maniacal interpretation of their religion.” He said Americans would fight for “freedom for women, the freedom of elections, freedom of religion and the freedom of our economy.”
Addressing the terrorists directly, Giuliani said: “We are not giving that up, and you are not going to take it from us!”
I know 9/11 was SO long ago. I mean, almost six years is a long time, and clearly one major party seems to believe the threat has subsided (heard any serious plans out of the Democrats regarding Afghanistan, Pakistan, or the Sudan, lately? Me either). The party of Clinton and Carter has seemingly forgotten the size of the stakes and the scope of the conflict. Iraq is not just about Iraq. Iraq is a front in the larger war that cannot fall, and certainly cannot be handed over to al Qaeda on a limited edition specially numbered Pelosi/Reid engraved silver platter. Being kind in my assessment, the Democratic leadership possesses the foreign policy attention span of your average gold fish.
The Democrats have determined that 1) the war in Iraq is lost, and 2) we need to get out on a date certain. Forget for now what happens once we leave Iraq, or what message an outright surrender would send to those who prefer us all dead. Or how a chaotic Iraq empowers Iran, and places the world’s oil supply, and our economy and well-being, in great peril. The “get out now” crowd has clearly not thought more than one step ahead. Maybe if Harry Reid could stop focusing on how to lose a war to win an election, he would have the time to actually inform himself about the region we’ve been politically and militarily embroiled in for the last sixty years. The irresponsiblity of the Congressional leadership is sickening. The only answer is to win the war, and they ought to know it.
UPDATE The top two Democratic contenders take issue with Giuliani’s statements
“Rudy Giuliani today has taken the politics of fear to a new low and I believe Americans are ready to reject those kind of politics,” Obama said in a statement. “America’s mayor should know that when it comes to 9-11 and fighting terrorists, America is united. We know we can win this war based on shared purpose, not the same divisive politics that question your patriotism if you dare to question failed policies that have made us less secure.”
New York Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, weighing in with a statement posted on her campaign Web site, said: “One of the great tragedies of this Administration is that the president failed to keep this country unified after 9/11. We have to protect our country from terrorism — it shouldn’t be a Democratic fight or a Republican fight.”
Hillary is right. It shouldn’t be a partisan fight, but thanks to the antics of Harry Reid, among others on her side of the aisle, it has become a Republican fight. The Democrats are more intent on packing up and coming home (which, inarguably, cannot be confused with a fighting stance).
Meanwhile, through impressively polished rhetoric, Obama says absolutely nothing, which is quite Clintonian of him (meaning Bill, not his wife). Neither leading Democrat came out against the follies of their party, and neither has a real plan to execute the War on Terror. Rudy appears right.
April 25th, 2007 at 3:43 pm
[...] Nathan Moore: The Democrats have determined that 1) the war in Iraq is lost, and 2) we need to get out on a date certain. Forget for now what happens once we leave Iraq, or what message an outright surrender would send to those who prefer us all dead. Or how a chaotic Iraq empowers Iran, and places the world’s oil supply, and our economy and well-being, in great peril. The “get out now” crowd has clearly not thought more than one step ahead. Maybe if Harry Reid could stop focusing on how to lose a war to win an election, he would have the time to actually inform himself about the region we’ve been politically and militarily embroiled in for the last sixty years. The irresponsiblity of the Congressional leadership is sickening. The only answer is to win the war, and they ought to know it. [...]
April 26th, 2007 at 6:59 am
[...] Nathan Moore sums it up pretty well. [...]
April 26th, 2007 at 8:08 am
How could it be true, that the man who was president during the worst attack on our nation, and the man who was the mayor of the city in which that attack principally unfolded, would not only be absolved of any and all blame for the unreadiness of their own governments, but, more over, would thereafter be branded heroes of those attacks?
We Americans are sick to death, of you and the other terror-mongers, trying to frighten us into submission, into the surrender of our rights and our reason, into this betrayal of that for which this country has always stood.
We have nothing to fear but fear itself and those who would exploit our fear, for power, and for their own personal, selfish gain.
On what imaginary track record does Mr. Giuliani base his boast?
Which party held the presidency on September 11th, 2001, Mr. Giuliani?
Which party held the mayoralty of New York on that date, Mr. Giuliani?
Which party assured New Yorkers that the air was safe, and the remains of the dead, recovered - and not being used to fill pot-holes, Mr. Giuliani?
Which party wanted what the terrorists wanted - the postponement elections - and to whose personal advantage would that have redounded, Mr. Giuliani?
Which mayor of New York was elected eight months after the first attack on the World Trade Center, yet did not emphasize counter-terror in the same city for the next eight years, Mr. Giuliani?
Which party had proposed to turn over the Department of Homeland Security to Bernard Kerik, Mr. Giuliani?
Who wanted to ignore and hide Kerik’s Organized Crime allegations, Mr. Giuliani?
Who personally argued to the White House that Kerik need not be vetted, Mr. Giuliani?
Which party rode roughshod over Americans’ rights while braying that it was actually protecting them, Mr. Giuliani?
Which party took this country into the most utterly backwards, utterly counter-productive, utterly ruinous war in our history, Mr. Giuliani?
Which party has been in office as more Americans were killed in the pointless fields of Iraq, than were killed in the consuming nightmare of 9/11, Mr. Giuliani?
He, with no foreign policy experience whatsoever, is somehow the Messiah-of-the-moment?
April 26th, 2007 at 8:39 am
…and who is raising the white flag??
Right it’s the DEMOCRAT LOSERS!!
April 26th, 2007 at 11:02 am
It’s not Americans and the United States Congress who are emboldening the enemy, it’s the failed policy of this president, going to war without a strategy, going to war prematurely, going to war without enough troops, going to war without enough equipment… and Republicans have the balls to call Democrats the losers?
April 26th, 2007 at 11:19 am
“What Harry Reid is saying is that this war is lost — in other words, a war where we mainly spend our time policing a civil war between Shiites and Sunnis. We are not going to solve that problem. … The war is not lost. And Harry Reid believes this — we Democrats believe it. … So the bottom line is if the war continues on this path, if we continue to try to police and settle a civil war that’s been going on for hundreds of years in Iraq, we can’t win. But on the other hand, if we change the mission and have that mission focus on the more narrow goal of counterterrorism, we sure can win.”
- SEN Chuck Schumer
Everyone got that? This war is lost. But the war against terror can be won. America will be defended, not by a bumbling fear mongering Republican administration whose leaders Bush and Cheney cowardly avoided Vietnam service, but by great American minds that will strategically use the American military to our greatest advantage and not piss it away in a civil war created through Republican incompetence.
June 11th, 2007 at 3:33 am
This other Nathan Moore is right on the money! To the Democrats it is more important to be in control and turn the attention of Americans to domestic policy. That want to get back to the US before 9/11. That place is gone, the quicker everyone accepts this the quicker we can facilitate victory on all Fronts. From my foxhole in Iraq, it feels as though the left is the first weakness. Its the weak knee in our defense. If we return to pre-9/11 thought, “GWOT is a matter of policing not attacking” we will face a fate worse than 9/11. Its coming and our enemies are pursuing this! Don’t let them abandon these people here, that suffer everyday, that long for US support and a world without the Jihad.
October 4th, 2007 at 12:50 pm
http://www.911reasons.com