Nathan Moore's Thoughts
I promise I will not rename this blog VoterPhotoIDThoughts.com, but here is some more helpful information that even further dampens the argument against requiring a photo ID to vote. The following is from the Tennessee Department of Safety’s website
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Tennessee Identification (ID Only) License
There are two types of identification licenses which may be obtained for identification purposes only. No testing is required. However, all applicants must meet the same standards for proof of identity and residency as are required for any driver license. ID’s are not valid for vehicle operation. If an applicant is under the age of 18, a responsible adult must complete a portion of the Minor/Teen-age Affidavit and Cancellation form (available at any driver license station or online by clicking here) at the time of application.
- The first type of ID license is an “Expiring Identification License” that may be issued to any person not currently holding a valid driver license who presents positive proof of identification and all other requirements needed to obtain a driver license.Please Note: At age 65 or older, the ID does not expire.
Any applicant who does not have a social security number shall complete an affidavit, under penalty of perjury, affirming that the applicant has never been issued a SSN, and must provide either an original or certified copy of one of the following.
(a) Birth Certificate issued by Tennessee or another state, possession, territory or commonwealth of the USA.
(b) Documentation issued by the United States Immigration and Naturalization Service acceptable to the Department of Safety.
- The second type is a “permanent identification license” that any person who is mentally retarded or physically handicapped may obtain. In addition to presenting a positive proof of identification, they must submit a certified statement from a licensed doctor stating they are unable to operate a vehicle. Those who qualify for this ID may receive it free of charge. ID licenses issued in this manner do not expire.
Thus, the elderly and the disabled only have to go once, and will never have to go again. There are four convenient locations to get your ID in both Davidson and Shelby County. Nashville’s bus map is here (MTA access ride is here) and Memphis’ map is here (MATAPlus info can be found here).
However, that isn’t all, is it? There were other reliable Democrat voting blocks that would supposedly be “disadvantaged” by the law. You may note that though there are indigency provisions in the law, which cover the impoverished; however. there is not a special ID card for black people. Surely my Democrat friends aren’t after that - that would be a bit Old South, wouldn’t it .. ? Because, all the other complaints against ensuring the integrity of the vote with a photo ID requirement are, quite simply, gone with the wind.
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Nathan Moore's Thoughts
I have decided to reprint this exchange between me and my friend Ben who commented on the last post
Info from the League of Women Voters, published October 2008:
There are approximately 11 million eligible voters in this country who don’t possess a photo ID, and most of them can’t easily get one. Who are they?
18 percent of Americans over 65 (6 million) don’t have a photo ID and the percentage goes way up for those over 75 years of age
25 percent of African Americans don’t have a photo ID
10 percent of 40 million people with disabilities don’t have a photo ID
15 percent of low income voters don’t have a photo ID
There are lots of valid reasons why these eligible voters can’t easily obtain an ID. It requires at least one trip to a location which is usually a good distance from home. Those seniors who no longer drive don’t want to bother their friends or family to take them to get an ID; they save that favor to get groceries. People who live in the inner-city and those with low incomes very often use public transportation, which may not take them to the places they need to reach to obtain an ID. Furthermore that office may be open only from 9 to 5, hours when they are probably still at work and can’t take time off.’
And my response. I believe I found the reference for the aforementioned statistics here
The argument that it is not the most convenient thing to get is not a good enough one to not require it.
Let me get the numbers right, though.
Over 80% of elderly Americans have a photo ID already.
75% of black people have photo IDs already. Of course, race is not a disability, so it has nothing to do with the difficulties surrounding obtaining a photo ID.
90% of those with disabilities already have a photo ID. This is the only group that would remotely have a legitimate gripe. I am presuming that this includes any elderly individuals are disabled (see above). Fit elderly individuals are no more in need of assistance than you or me.
85% of low income voters already have a photo ID. There are indigency provisions in all these laws, anyway, so I’m not sure how that affects anything.
As for public transportation, there tend to be stops around government buildings. For instance, in Nashville Howard School is easily accessible by bus. We can certainly assuage that concern completely by requiring at least one photo ID location be accessible by public transit. Easily done.
The legitimacy of every person’s vote affects everyone’s vote. My vote is diluted (as is yours) every time an invalid vote is cast. It is not too much to ask that someone get a photo ID once every five or ten years to make the process air tight.
The problem though is that without admission of methodology on these statistics, I suspect the League of Women Voters is quadruple counting (an elderly African American disabled on a fixed income fits four boxes). The real number is what matters, but they skew that, too. (”As many as 11 percent of United States citizens do not have a photo ID” and there is no demarcation between non-ID holders who are and are not registered to vote).
Please pardon my en Francais, but their numbers are crap (I know! I know! Thomas Crapper was English…). And remember, the voter photo ID bill allows for provisional voting, anyway.
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